Monday, December 05, 2005

Draft Pierre!

So, rumors are swirling that Pierre Prosper is reconsidering his run for AG, not for continued anonymity as a government employee, but for a US Senate run.

Now, I was an early opponent of his, but as we’re desperate for a candidate, ANY candidate, I’d welcome him with open arms.

He’d actually be more interesting a candidate than Bill Mundell, as while I despise our Party’s own version of affirmative action – promoting candidates of color, regardless of qualification or quality – it certainly would bring notoriety to the campaign to have a black Republican Senate nominee in California.

And his reported war crimes work in Africa probably suits him better for a Senate run than for AG anyways, as at least he’d have SOME foreign policy experience to speak of.

So, while I still reserve my right to be an ardent opponent of Prosper for AG, let me be among the first to start a Draft Pierre for Senate Campaign!

21 Comments:

At 12/05/2005 9:48 PM, Blogger OAFFER said...

I was critical of Mr. Prosper's attempt to run for AG. The focus of my criticism was that his candidacy would follow the pattern of so many others who have tried to jump-start a political career by running statwide in California. And, in the case of AG Mr. Prosper was making his debut against a proven and respectable conservative in Senator Poochigian.

Given that there appears to be no Republican candidate willing to challenge Senator Feinstein, Mr. Prosper does present an interesting proposition. Although, I fear he will be dispatched by the Senator and where he goes from there... who knows?

I stand by my earlier request. I'd love to see Mr. Prosper run for a state legislative seat or a House seat. Something achieveable where he could build a record and prove his electability. I don't suggest this as a means to keep him from statewide office, but more so as a hope that he can someday build the base necessary to win statewide; this is, providing he proves to be a principled conservative.

In the end, I suppose Mr. Prosper will do what he determines to be in his best interest. I hope that he does consider the long-term for his own sake. But, if no other viable Republican steps into the arena I'd love to support the candidacy of Mr. Propser against DiFi.

 
At 12/06/2005 1:31 PM, Blogger Art Pedroza said...

I could not agree more! I think Pierre would be an excellent choice for the Senate race. Let's face it, we probably won't win, so why not at least score some points with the media and with minority groups?

Art Pedroza
Editor, The Orange Juice
http://o-juice.blogspot.com/

 
At 12/07/2005 9:06 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Art... that may be a pragmatic statement but it comes off Racist. I hope you are not representative of the rank & file in Sacto

 
At 12/07/2005 4:58 PM, Anonymous OxyChaz said...

There is no way Pooch is going to win in November. Yeah, he may have $3 million in the bank now, but it's going to take closer to $10 million to buy enough name ID to take on the Dems. And there is no way Pooch can pull that off. Nobody knows him except those in the Central Valley and the hotel where a CRP convention is being held.

Prosper has more of a "story" than Pooch does...and is much more of an attractive candidate than a "legislative-lifer" looking to keep a seat warm in Sacramento. No republican minus Gov. Arnold can take on DiFi right now...but we do have a chance for AG. We should put forth the candidate who has the best chance of winning.

Call me crazy, but I'm a Republican who is looking to win a statewide this election rather than just chalk up another loss.

 
At 12/08/2005 6:30 PM, Anonymous New Idea? said...

Is there any way Governor Schwarzenegger can put Chuck Poochigian on the bench? Maybe even as the replacement for Janice Rogers Brown???

HE WOULD BE GREAT FOR THAT JOB! A solid conservative to balance it out???

 
At 12/08/2005 11:12 PM, Anonymous New Idea said...

Afraid of a little common sense? Deleting perfectly reasonable comments???

The Governor could do us all a favor by APPOINTING CHUCK POOCHIGIAN TO THE BENCH.

 
At 12/10/2005 12:45 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

prosper would need a better consultant than kingsley to have a chance.

 
At 12/10/2005 1:55 PM, Blogger Senator McCarthy said...

I heard Prosper fired Kingsley.

Apparently, Prosper is a blogger and has read some of the post here.

 
At 12/11/2005 1:45 AM, Anonymous New Idea said...

Prosper's general consultant is Chris LaCivita - from the SWIFT BOAT guy - doesn't anybody here read the Law Rags? They published that when he first came out in the Daily Journal or The Recorder, can't remember which. But Ken Khachigian is gonna need a lot more money if he thinks he has a friggin prayer against THAT guy. That guy wrote, produced & directed the ads that knocked out Kerry. (At least with military folks & veterans)

 
At 12/11/2005 1:47 AM, Anonymous New Idea said...

Not to mention he was THE guy for George Allen - THE NEXT PRESIDENT - when Allen took out incumbant Chuck Robb in 2000. If Prosper's guy has that juice, we better pop the popcorn.

 
At 12/11/2005 4:03 PM, Blogger NickM said...

If Prosper is reading blogs, maybe he should tell his team to quit writing for them. They're only hurting his campaign.

Allen underperformed against Chuck Robb. What was supposed to be a sizable win based on polling (double-digit lead when he announced his campaign, 15% lead as of the Commonwealth Poll completed Oct. 24, 2000) turned into a very narrow 52-48 win for Allen. Considering that Robb only pulled 46% in 1994, when moderate GOPers deserted Oliver North's campaign in droves, and that Allen outspent Robb by about a 3-2 margin, there was little that was impressive about that win.

As far as LaCivita's connection to the Swift Boat ads, he didn't write, direct, or produce them. According to the 8/25/04 New York Times, "Mr. LaCivita described his role as providing advice on the news media and placing advertisements." The ads were actually produced by Stevens Reed Curcio & Potholm. You can view the ads on their website.

Nick

 
At 12/12/2005 10:50 AM, Anonymous Nick IS Wrong said...

As you'll see by reading the article about LaCivita & Rick Reed that ran in AdWeek - with the picture of the two men - you are incorrect. (the link is on the Nick is Wrong name ID)

Don't mistake LaCivita's humble remark for not doing the ads. That's just silly. And LaCivita engineered a tidal wave of success in Virginia, with now Senator Allen. Not to mention Allen is very likely to be the Presidential nominee in 2008 - be careful who ya diss. Cause you could end up miss-ing the boat for the next wave.

Not to mention - its not like you & your friends have been terribly successful in electoral politics this year. Or is it okay with you that the Governor's reform package died???

Prosper has no reason to be afraid of you and your idle threats. Sweetheart, he's been on the frontlines for this country - in places you can't pronounce. He ain't running from a fight. Whether it Attorney General or US Senate - he's ready for Game Time.

 
At 12/12/2005 11:18 AM, Anonymous SwiftBoats for Prosper said...

Or just read on the Swifties own website: That LaCivita is THE MAN.

My guess is that Nick is a kool-aid drinking McCain Moderate. Oh well, we conservatives beat him before, and we'll beat him again. Maybe we can trade McCain for Lieberman.

 
At 12/12/2005 11:20 AM, Anonymous Ad Week is HERE said...

Whoops...

 
At 12/12/2005 11:21 AM, Anonymous Link is acting odd said...

http://www.adweek.com/aw/specials/campaign04/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000696998

 
At 12/12/2005 1:54 PM, Anonymous Calm Down Nick & anon said...

Prosper should run for US Senate against DiFi - Prosper's website just looks like its crafted for a Federal Issues discussion. And if LaCivita is his consultant, I bet that has been the intent all along.

Real Californians shouldn't get all juiced up over what Prosper is or is not going to do in the AG race against Chuck Poochigian. I heard senior officials at the White House are hoping to convince Prosper to run for US Senate. They are absolutely committed to Prosper's political future. We need a new face, let's get him in the Senate race. And stop the bomb-throwing.

I made a couple of calls about LaCivita and he's got a damn fine rep for being a consultant. Pooch's supporters need to go lay the pressure on getting Prosper into the Senate race. Bring some attention to how we are growing, rather than hiding from a new guy. He wants to be the whipping post - I say let him.

 
At 12/12/2005 5:03 PM, Blogger NickM said...

Since you're going to call me "sweetheart," I'll assume you're female, and I'll call you Lizzy. :-)

You must love receiving a good Fisking.


Your precious AdWeek article doesn't say what you say it does.

Here is an actual quotation:

"Chris LaCivita and Rick Reed's campaign, strategically placed in battleground states with a $13 million media buy (as of last week), was created through Stevens Reed Curcio & Potholm, an Alexandria, Va., political agency whose work stretches back to the devastating Dukakis-in-a-tank ad.

But this time for LaCivita, a Marine veteran of the Persian Gulf War, and Reed, whose uncle, Capt. Adrian Lonsdale, is a critic of Sen. John Kerry, it was personal. 'The Swiftees came to me to get their message out,' LaCivita said."

The ad creator and the ad marketer were different people. Would you like me to provide a lot more articles showing the separation?

As to the tidal wave of success in Virginia, just ask Governor Earley and Governor-elect Kilgore how wonderful George Allen's team is at winning elections. The GOP state legislative majority there is slipping away rapidly too.

You're so obviously a Sacramento hack that it's funny. I like most of the people lining up for Allen, and some of them have been trying to bring me on board for years. I just see far better conservative choices out there - and I came out last December publicly in support of Governor Mark Sanford for President. My income doesn't depend on kissing the derriere of chief consultants, nor do I aspire to bootlicking my way into being an Assistant Press Secretary to one of the Deputy Secretaries of one of the Cabinet departments we should have abolished years ago.

As far as success in electoral politics, at least I supported all of 73 through 77. Where did YOU stand on Prop 77?

As for claiming that I had made threats or calling me a McCain Moderate, whoever you were billing this morning deserves their money back. That was pathetic. If I wanted only to be polite, I would say "Methinks the lady has McCain and McClintock confused." and leave it at that. But I will also offer you some unsolicited advice: Accusations of hidden liberalism against an anonymous poster may amount to something, but I've been known far too long and commented far too widely for anyone to fall for it.

calm down - My problem with Prosper is simple. I have no confidence that he is a conservative. I have talked to 8 people who remembered Prosper from his time in the L.A. D.A.'s office. All of them thought he was liberal - and several were surprised to know he is a Republican. Not every new face is a good face, and I will not support someone for a U.S. Senate nomination unless I see him as a good face.

Nick

 
At 12/12/2005 10:58 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nick:

Don't know you - so I'm sorry if I mislabeled you a Mod when you're actually a conservative. I'm not a party person, nor a paid operative. Just the wife of a hack! (Hey, he brings his work home - what can I say?)

From what I understand, LaCivita was outta virginia after Allen got elected, after a stint at the NRSC where he was the pol dir for Frist & managed strategy for 17 races - helping us to keep the Senate. As for Earley & Kilgore - those guys aren't exactly rockstars - and Earley was a special kind of disaster. That wasn't Alen or LaCivita's fault- its their fault. If ANY candidate doesn't finish a winner, I am not going to blame others. The buck stops with the name on the ballot in my opinion.

As for Prosper, I'm surprised - having spoken to folks that also worked with him - they said he was a hard core guy when it came to his work as a prosecutor. I was told he was very solid conservative on 2nd amendment and on life. Also heard that the ADDA folkks are considering an endorsement.

No need to be so adversarial! I have no idea who Lizzy is but someone should tell her about all the sniping.

 
At 12/13/2005 12:52 AM, Blogger NickM said...

I don't blame LaCivita for anything that happened in the 2001 and 2005 VA Governor races. He went to work at the NRSC and doesn't appear to have been involved in those. But Allen failed at party-building in his own state in a way that bodes poorly for his own political future.

I don't envy anyone the 2006 CA GOP Senate nomination unless Feinstein retires and the Democrats nominate someone such as Loretta Sanchez (although I strongly expect that a Feinstein retirement would result in an attempt to hand the seat off to Jane Harman, aka Feinstein Part II). An extremely wealthy Democrat incumbent with good poll numbers, a large war chest, and a moderate reputation in a Democrat-leaning state that's very expensive to run in is a recipe for another campaign that no one wants to contribute to. The White House and RNC would be foolish to direct large sums of money to California when that money could have much more of an effect on trying to keep OH, RI, MO, MT (I think they write PA off as a lost cause) and to pick up MN, FL, MD, NJ and WA. They're not foolish.

Nick

 
At 12/14/2005 11:08 PM, Anonymous Dang Lizzy said...

I'd consider myself a hack this is the first I've heard of LaCivita. Granted I'm not interested in the television media portion of campaigns, but still I've usually seen names somewhere.

Clearly I missed the boat (no pun intended) on this guy - he apparently is a leader in what he does.

I'm just impressed that this wife of a hack knows all this stuff when I've never noticed it myself.

Your husband must be something special.

 
At 12/18/2005 9:02 PM, Anonymous Not a sexy answer said...

Like I said, I'm just the wife of a Hack. But my Hack has consulted all over the country, not just in California. That's how we came across our LaCivita knowledge. No conspiracy, just a long career of working with hacks from other places. Lucky you, other blue states are even uglier towards Repubs!

 

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