Wednesday, September 28, 2005

CalBorderPolice - DOA?

From everything I’ve been hearing, the CalBorderPolice Initiative is a non-starter.

That the Governor polled it, and it came back lackluster. That it isn’t raising hardly squat for money. That it isn’t collecting nearly enough signatures.

What’s the word elsewhere? Does this thing have a shot?

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At 9/28/2005 4:17 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I heard the wording is flawed and even if it qualifies and passes . . . that it won't pass legal muster and will be thrown out of court.

It's just a money making venture for GBWA to sell "Co-Chair" title for $10K a pop to candidates and elected official to have a good resume on illegal immigration.

Not a bad political business.

 
At 9/28/2005 4:23 PM, Blogger The Teflon Pawn said...

LOL...if that's true, that is REALLY nice way to make some cash.

 
At 9/28/2005 5:28 PM, Blogger Lady MacRae said...

Since funding would come out of the General Fund it is hard to argue that we need to provide this service in our state's time of monetary need. Not to mention, I don't think that the Governor would survive an attack from Hispanic Californians since he is already underfire from the CTA and law enforcement unions.

 
At 9/28/2005 8:28 PM, Anonymous Good Idea said...

That is a good idea for GBWA to make some money.

They sure aren't getting it in win bonuses.

 
At 9/28/2005 11:19 PM, Blogger NickM said...

In the Ninth Circuit, being thrown out by a federal district judge should be regarded as a point in favor of the law. Several of the districts are still overrun with judges whose opinions are examples of Newspeak.

Jimmy Carter's appointments to the federal bench were even worse than Jerry Brown's picks for the California Supreme Court.

Nick

 
At 9/29/2005 10:40 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I recieved a mass mailed petition in the mail two days ago, so it looks like they are active. Have not seen paid sig. gatherers yet in front of the local stores, but they are expensive.

 
At 9/29/2005 10:52 AM, Anonymous Dave Gilliard said...

Pete,

I don't know anything about the Governor polling it. We have polled it in several districts and it comes in between 70-75% YES, with strong support across the board, including Democrats.
Because big donors are mostly spineless when it comes to this type of issue, we have had to raise money from small donors. We just started our petition mail program last week and the early returns look very strong. We have until Dec. 12 to turn in signatures.

As to the legality, it was fully vetted by top attorneys and legal experts on immigration issues. That's not to say that the 9th won't play games, but that would be true of any initiative.

We have a paid signature firm under contract and ready to hit the streets as soon as we can sustain the cash flow for paid sigs.

 
At 9/29/2005 11:52 AM, Blogger Pete St. John said...

So, in Mountjoy and Wyland's districts it polls well, eh?

Yes, the Gov did poll it -- came in the 50's.

From what I hear, the effort is lagging behind even where the CRA's SB60 petition was.

And though you may have to Dec 12 -- good luck with anything between Thanksgiving and Christmas.

Last, why on earth was this launched before funding was in-hand? That's why we keep failing at these things... too much 'by the seat of our pants.'

 
At 9/29/2005 12:02 PM, Anonymous Dave Gilliard said...

If true, the poll was slanted to get the results they wanted.

I am confident this wins hands down if we make the ballot.

 
At 9/29/2005 11:21 PM, Blogger NickM said...

Even if it fails, getting it on the ballot is a good thing. Playing offense is always more effective in politics than playing defense.

Nick

 
At 10/03/2005 2:46 PM, Anonymous Berkeley Bear said...

They work upstairs, still have an office...

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At 10/03/2005 2:55 PM, Blogger Reagan Enthusiast said...

It is a popular idea - if it makes it to the ballot I believe it will definitely pass. But I agree with Nick M - you can't trust the activists sitting on the 9th.

 
At 10/03/2005 8:24 PM, Anonymous Union yes! said...

Just what we need, more unionized law enforcement.

 
At 10/12/2005 10:39 PM, Blogger kettle black said...

...And bigger government, and more restrictions, and.... more bloat and unnecessary restrictions on freedoms.

I have no love for illegal aliens and their effect on the State, but the Border Cops on Patrol is not the answer.

(unless the question is what is the crappiest legislation turned initiative the Republicans have come out with this year)

KB

 
At 10/14/2005 3:07 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Law Enforcement is not union...

The Cal Border Police initiative will pass by more than 60%

 
At 11/22/2005 8:05 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

i was having dinner the other day and I saw the campaign manager for the race, George Andrews, in the restraunt. I asked him about the race and he seemed pretty condident because of the paid signature gatherers.
He is either a.) on to something that we dont know about b.) has one hell of a poker face.

 

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